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Old 07-03-2008, 10:09 PM   #1 (permalink)

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Bad news for YouTube users.

Judge Protects YouTube’s Source Code, Throws Users To The Wolves

Thoughts and opinions?
Will it effect the online anime community?

Personally I'm going to stay away from YouTube for a bit...but I'm hoping Viacom doesn't start handing out lawsuits to people for watching copyrighted material. How could they even enforce something like that when there have been millions of people doing it, that's a hell of a lot of lawsuits.

More articles, some different views:

http://www.betanews.com/article/Is_t...ern/1215103870
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/s...006301,00.html
http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2008/07...its-youtube-us
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Shit does this apply to Amv's as well
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Saw this earlier and it's just ghey

The clampdowns occuring on practically everything you do on the internet now is ridculous
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Honestly, I wouldn't be so bothered if it was handing over IP addresses and stuff for the sake of... say, selective advertisement, or ways to improve the site for viewers, or fairly minor things. Lawsuits, though? Geez, isn't that a little much?

And I know these are American companies, but it still bugs me that one country can decide this kind of thing for people around the world. We don't get a say in their laws or elections, yet we do suffer the consequences. I think. If lawsuits aren't being handed out to non-Americans, that's a bit of a relief, I guess, but it feels to me that the Internet needs to be governed, if at all, by something international - not by the laws of individual nations.
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Yeah, YouTube is pretty awful when it comes to censorship - and finding anything relevant nowadays, it seems. Still, some people do use it for a few days until it gets taken down, so I can only see this leading to increased traffic for other streaming sites. Well, until this happens to them, too - it's only a matter of time. Censorship is happening all over the internet.
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That is just great.

Seriously that is messed up! How could a judge make a ruling like that when it is obviously protected by the law!

Originally Posted by Darklight View Post
Shit does this apply to Amv's as well
I think amvs are safe, since it's considered user made.

Originally Posted by Digital_Eon View Post
And I know these are American companies, but it still bugs me that one country can decide this kind of thing for people around the world. We don't get a say in their laws or elections, yet we do suffer the consequences. I think. If lawsuits aren't being handed out to non-Americans, that's a bit of a relief, I guess, but it feels to me that the Internet needs to be governed, if at all, by something international - not by the laws of individual nations.
Since it's an American company, they can only give out lawsuits to Americans. Everyone else is out of their jurisdiction. So your safe, I think.

I agree, we don't have the right to make a decision for the whole world, it's just wrong.

If they start handing out lawsuits left and right, our economy might drop dramatically. People would have less money to spend. If people don't spend money, companies lose business and fail, no companies means no jobs, and if that happens we are gonna have another Great Depression...now isn't depressing?
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Who knows about AMVs. If they have copyrighted material in them...

Companies don't really understand the internet, it seems. They're in it to make as much money in the short term as possible without questioning whether their strategy is feasible. That's why they're trying to cut down on illegal music downloads or the like - even taking music videos or performances offline. It's ridiculous; it annoys customers who might have felt inclined to purchase material if they were allowed to properly sample it (and those who don't might not have bought it anyway). Nevertheless, companies are concerned about controlling everything they release even when it means not caring about the world.

(For example: Gee, thanks, "official" online streaming sites, for only allowing the material to be viewed in the US.)
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Originally Posted by wlock View Post
If they start handing out lawsuits left and right, our economy might drop dramatically. People would have less money to spend. If people don't spend money, companies lose business and fail, no companies means no jobs, and if that happens we are gonna have another Great Depression...now isn't depressing?
Lol, don't worry! I highly doubt this would have such a great affect.
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Originally Posted by wlock View Post
If they start handing out lawsuits left and right, our economy might drop dramatically. People would have less money to spend. If people don't spend money, companies lose business and fail, no companies means no jobs, and if that happens we are gonna have another Great Depression...now isn't depressing?
If not for having less money to spend, they would be less inclined to spend at the very least.

Companies aren't that smart. :/
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Originally Posted by Digital_Eon View Post
Who knows about AMVs. If they have copyrighted material in them...

Companies don't really understand the internet, it seems. They're in it to make as much money in the short term as possible without questioning whether their strategy is feasible. That's why they're trying to cut down on illegal music downloads or the like - even taking music videos or performances offline. It's ridiculous; it annoys customers who might have felt inclined to purchase material if they were allowed to properly sample it (and those who don't might not have bought it anyway). Nevertheless, companies are concerned about controlling everything they release even when it means not caring about the world.

(For example: Gee, thanks, "official" online streaming sites, for only allowing the material to be viewed in the US.)
Well I can understand where they are coming from. A lot of people work hard to make these shows and other things and do lose a lot of money because of the internet. The problem is there really isn't any way to properly enforce copyright infringement laws over the internet without doing things like this which go against privacy laws. Instead they really should be coming up with other methods, like iTunes for example. It has not completely gotten rid of people illegally downloading music, but it provides a legal way for people to easily get songs onto their computers, and many people use it because of that.
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Originally Posted by sirbartonslady View Post
Sounds like it's time to start using Proxy servers.
that wouldn't help as it's what ever users has already watched. not what you are going to watch.

Anyway no way this goes through as the judge violated several laws and is a complete idiot.
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This is definitely an invasion of privacy and it's total bullshit.
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I hope someone takes this up to a higher court, because apparently this judge is not suited for this case. Goodbye 4th amendment!
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For anyone who has posted those removed copywrited videos getting sued might be for the best. Copywrite is a fedural law so its a jailible offense. Meaning if the Surpreme Court up holds this ruling your looking at bad times ahead. Copywrite applies to music as well so AMVs do count even if anime/show consider it a free trailer for them the music people will not like it.
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