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Old 03-31-2010, 07:31 PM   #1
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Good Evening, Dgraydivinity!

Woah, this week's chapter spoilers came out quite unexpectedly this time, it took Hikamitz and I totally by surprise.

The last chapter, the 192nd Night, was a little different than the others, focusing on Allen's reactions to Kanda's memories (along with Road's reactions to Allen...which were quite eyebrow-raising) rather than the memories themselves.

Hikamitz will present her summary of the 192nd Night shortly, but until then, lets see what The 193rd Night has in store!
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Well, here are the spoilers that mangahelpers had posted so far. There's no translation for the script yet.
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では僭越ながら私が。

取り上げ簡易

凍結処分中のユウ、気力で拒否ったらイノセンスが反応して皮肉にもシンクロ
逃げ出す途中で第二使徒実験被験者になってるマリ発見
一緒に逃亡
ユウ、色々考えてアルマも連れて一緒に逃げようと決意
自分の元の研究室に向かうと、記憶を取り戻し怒りが制御出来ず
研究員達を惨殺したアルマがいた
まるでAKUMAな自分達だ、ユウ一緒に死のう
とユウに攻撃するアルマ
俺は死にたくないとユウ反撃

バトル開始で次回

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神田はもう記憶も壊れてるのにどうしてあの人に会いたい気持ちが捨てられないんだって冒頭で叫 んでた
自分たちが生きてたら道具にされ続ける 守るべきものはもう何も無くなったって言いながら
アルマが神田を貫いたときもあの人の笑顔がよぎって泣きながらアルマを斬る

「俺は生きたい」
~アルマ 俺の~
「お前を破壊してでも…!」
~たったひとりの~

第193夜 friend

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昼間は大変失礼しました
帰って来たので今から投下します

>260-261
人物紹介にてあっさり↓と纏められてる

神田ユウ
----------------------------
黒の教団が人工的に生み出した「第ニエクソシスト」。
実験体として殉職したエクソシストの脳を移植された。


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第193夜 friend

笑顔で見返りアルマの全身
『ずっとそばに―――そう思ってたよ……』

本編煽り:凍結処分された神田! 忘却に身を委ねて……

『真っ暗』『なんて心地いい 闇…』
闇の中に光が灯って、蓮の群生を見ている人の腕の絵
「見たいなぁ」「一面に咲きほこってるところ」
「いつかふたりで一緒に見ることができたら…」
頬を染めて笑顔の女性「ホントに? おじいさんとおばあさんになっちゃってもよ?」
「…待ってるね」「…ずっと」
蓮から滴が湖面にボタと落ちる『待ってる……』
寝ているベッド(術がてんこ盛り)の上で「ぎぎぎ」と起き上がろうとするユウと
それを抑えようとする術がバチバチとスパークしている
ベッドに書かれた文様に縛り付けられていて起き上がれないユウ
『どうして』『どうして起き上がる』『顔も朧げで名も判らない 思い出せない』
『俺の記憶はもう壊れてる』
スパークして稲妻発してる術VS女性の笑顔が思い浮かんでいるユウ
『なのに どうして』
ユウ、滂沱して絶叫
「どうして…っ 会いたい気持ちが捨てられねぇんだよ」
その瞬間咎落ちBodyの一体がカァと光ってユウの左手とシンクロ
左手から生えた?刀がユウの体の上に浮いている
ユウ『イノセンス!!』『クソが…!』『なんで ここで出てくる!!』
『これがあれば助かる』『こんなものの適合者だった為に俺は…』
『「あの人」に会いたい』『もう嫌だ!!』

研究室のドアがドパァと切り壊されて、中から血をボタタと垂らし
左手にイノセンスを持ったユウが出てくる
ユウ「ち…」「とんだバカだ…」「バカ過ぎる」
 『どうするこれから』『研究所(ここ)の奴ら全員 殺してやろうか』
そんなことを考えてるユウの耳に「ピ」「ピ」と音が聞こえ、その方を見ると
マリが手術台?検査台?の上に寝ている。マリの額はぱっくり開いてる
ユウ『あの時の…』
マリに針を抜いてもらった事を思い出す
『この頭の傷…死にかけてるのか?』
「これ団服…? エクソシストだったのか」「まさか…」
何気なくマリの額の傷に手を翳すと、血が傷口の周りに滴り落ちる
「こいつも計画の実験体…!?」
ツゥ…とユウの血がマリの傷口に入り込む
心拍計の数値が急激に上がり、マリの体がドクンと跳ねあがる
驚くユウ「えっ!?」
シュウウウとマリの傷がふさがりマリ気がつく「う…っ」
ユウ「えぇえっ」
ケロリンとしたマリ「ん?……その声」「こないだの坊やか?」
真っ白になってるユウ


マリ「その… すまないな坊や」「これくらいのケガ…聖人ノ詩篇をはずされてなければ
 自分の体くらい運べるんだが」
狭い通気孔の中をユウにしがみ付いて運んでもらっているマリ
マリ「それにしても坊や」ずり「すごい力持ちだなぁ 腹ばいで私を引きずるなんて」ずりずり
ユウ「ワケありの体でな」「あと俺を坊やって呼ぶのヤメロ ブッ殺すぞ。」ずり
マリ「じゃあ何て呼べばいい? 私はマリだ」
ユウ「……」←「ユウ」と名乗るのがちょっとフクザツ
ユウ「……落ち着いてんだなアンタ」
マリ「エクソシストの人造化のことか? 全然…怒りで気が変になりそうだ」
 「それでもなんとか正気でいるのは」ユウに首に回した腕がカタカタ震えている
ユウ「!」
マリ「キミの…おかげかな」「キミがそばにいてくれてるからだよ」
ユウを下水路に蹴り落とした時のアルマが浮かぶ。アルマ『逃げて』
マリ「独りだったら」
柱の陰から『ぼくも一緒に』と顔をのぞかせているアルマやついてくるアルマをうざがってる自分 が浮かぶ
マリ「どうなってたかわからない」
アルマ『大丈夫?またうなされてたね』
ユウ『アルマ…』
目に涙を浮かべるユウ『あいつを連れてここから逃げよう』
通気孔を抜けて胎中室に向かう、マリを負んぶしたユウ
『教団も戦争もどうでもいい』『怒りも怨みも』『全部飲み込んでやる』『あいつと一緒だったら 』
アルマを見つける
アルマ「ユウ 無事だったんだね!」
笑顔のユウ「アル……」
モヤが晴れて、切り刻まれた死体が多数転がり、血の海となっている胎中室に気付く

アルマ「あれ? うしろのおっきいのダレ?」
足元を見ているユウ『赤』
視線を上げると宙に浮いている吐血した男『赤』
更に視線を動かすと、キチキチキチと音を鳴らして男を貫いている
大きな刃がアルマから生えているのを知る
アルマの足元だけで7~8人の惨殺死体
茫然としているユウにアルマ「ユウ 会えて嬉しいんだけど」「ぼくキミを殺さなきゃ」

ドドドドドドドドドドとユウを攻撃するアルマ
ユウ「アルマ?!」
ゴアアと迫ったアルマの一振りが、ごぁきんとユウとマリに当たり二人は殴り飛ばされる
「くっ」っと自分のイノセンスを左手でガシッと掴んだユウの右腕をズバンと切断するアルマ
ユウ「が…っ」
アルマ「へぇ ユウもイノセンスとシンクロしたんだ」
ぎゃああああを悲鳴を上げるユウに更に一撃
殴り飛ばされた衝撃でユウと離ればなれになったマリ「坊や?」
ユウ「なんで…っ」
アルマ「毎日毎日…」「ひとりで仲間が目覚めるのを待ちながらずっと思ってた」
 「なんでみんな目覚めないのかなって」「はっ…」「目覚めるわけないよね」
 「目覚めたいわけないよね~~~~~」
 「あーあ なのに毎日しゃべりかけちゃってさぁ ぼくって超ウザかったろーなぁー」
 「ほら ぼく 声大きいしさ 話のネタがつきないように本とかよんじゃったりしてもーーーう わーーー」
ベラベラベラベラベラベラ喋り続けるアルマ
ユウ「お前…まさか…昔の記憶を…」
黙って涙を流しながら冷たい目でユウを見るアルマ
ユウ「だから殺したのか? エドガーも…まさか研究所全員…?」
普通の子供の泣き顔になるアルマ「とんだお笑い草だよね」「これじゃまるでAKUMA…」
自身の体にイノセンスを突き刺すアルマ

アルマ「あれ? うしろのおっきいのダレ?」
足元を見ているユウ『赤』
視線を上げると宙に浮いている吐血した男『赤』
更に視線を動かすと、キチキチキチと音を鳴らして男を貫いている
大きな刃がアルマから生えているのを知る
アルマの足元だけで7~8人の惨殺死体
茫然としているユウにアルマ「ユウ 会えて嬉しいんだけど」「ぼくキミを殺さなきゃ」

ドドドドドドドドドドとユウを攻撃するアルマ
ユウ「アルマ?!」
ゴアアと迫ったアルマの一振りが、ごぁきんとユウとマリに当たり二人は殴り飛ばされる
「くっ」っと自分のイノセンスを左手でガシッと掴んだユウの右腕をズバンと切断するアルマ
ユウ「が…っ」
アルマ「へぇ ユウもイノセンスとシンクロしたんだ」
ぎゃああああを悲鳴を上げるユウに更に一撃
殴り飛ばされた衝撃でユウと離ればなれになったマリ「坊や?」
ユウ「なんで…っ」
アルマ「毎日毎日…」「ひとりで仲間が目覚めるのを待ちながらずっと思ってた」
 「なんでみんな目覚めないのかなって」「はっ…」「目覚めるわけないよね」
 「目覚めたいわけないよね~~~~~」
 「あーあ なのに毎日しゃべりかけちゃってさぁ ぼくって超ウザかったろーなぁー」
 「ほら ぼく 声大きいしさ 話のネタがつきないように本とかよんじゃったりしてもーーーう わーーー」
ベラベラベラベラベラベラ喋り続けるアルマ
ユウ「お前…まさか…昔の記憶を…」
黙って涙を流しながら冷たい目でユウを見るアルマ
ユウ「だから殺したのか? エドガーも…まさか研究所全員…?」
普通の子供の泣き顔になるアルマ「とんだお笑い草だよね」「これじゃまるでAKUMA…」
自身の体にイノセンスを突き刺すアルマ

アルマ「あれ? うしろのおっきいのダレ?」
足元を見ているユウ『赤』
視線を上げると宙に浮いている吐血した男『赤』
更に視線を動かすと、キチキチキチと音を鳴らして男を貫いている
大きな刃がアルマから生えているのを知る
アルマの足元だけで7~8人の惨殺死体
茫然としているユウにアルマ「ユウ 会えて嬉しいんだけど」「ぼくキミを殺さなきゃ」

ドドドドドドドドドドとユウを攻撃するアルマ
ユウ「アルマ?!」
ゴアアと迫ったアルマの一振りが、ごぁきんとユウとマリに当たり二人は殴り飛ばされる
「くっ」っと自分のイノセンスを左手でガシッと掴んだユウの右腕をズバンと切断するアルマ
ユウ「が…っ」
アルマ「へぇ ユウもイノセンスとシンクロしたんだ」
ぎゃああああを悲鳴を上げるユウに更に一撃
殴り飛ばされた衝撃でユウと離ればなれになったマリ「坊や?」
ユウ「なんで…っ」
アルマ「毎日毎日…」「ひとりで仲間が目覚めるのを待ちながらずっと思ってた」
 「なんでみんな目覚めないのかなって」「はっ…」「目覚めるわけないよね」
 「目覚めたいわけないよね~~~~~」
 「あーあ なのに毎日しゃべりかけちゃってさぁ ぼくって超ウザかったろーなぁー」
 「ほら ぼく 声大きいしさ 話のネタがつきないように本とかよんじゃったりしてもーーーう わーーー」
ベラベラベラベラベラベラ喋り続けるアルマ
ユウ「お前…まさか…昔の記憶を…」
黙って涙を流しながら冷たい目でユウを見るアルマ
ユウ「だから殺したのか? エドガーも…まさか研究所全員…?」
普通の子供の泣き顔になるアルマ「とんだお笑い草だよね」「これじゃまるでAKUMA…」
自身の体にイノセンスを突き刺すアルマ

アルマ「あれ? うしろのおっきいのダレ?」
足元を見ているユウ『赤』
視線を上げると宙に浮いている吐血した男『赤』
更に視線を動かすと、キチキチキチと音を鳴らして男を貫いている
大きな刃がアルマから生えているのを知る
アルマの足元だけで7~8人の惨殺死体
茫然としているユウにアルマ「ユウ 会えて嬉しいんだけど」「ぼくキミを殺さなきゃ」

ドドドドドドドドドドとユウを攻撃するアルマ
ユウ「アルマ?!」
ゴアアと迫ったアルマの一振りが、ごぁきんとユウとマリに当たり二人は殴り飛ばされる
「くっ」っと自分のイノセンスを左手でガシッと掴んだユウの右腕をズバンと切断するアルマ
ユウ「が…っ」
アルマ「へぇ ユウもイノセンスとシンクロしたんだ」
ぎゃああああを悲鳴を上げるユウに更に一撃
殴り飛ばされた衝撃でユウと離ればなれになったマリ「坊や?」
ユウ「なんで…っ」
アルマ「毎日毎日…」「ひとりで仲間が目覚めるのを待ちながらずっと思ってた」
 「なんでみんな目覚めないのかなって」「はっ…」「目覚めるわけないよね」
 「目覚めたいわけないよね~~~~~」
 「あーあ なのに毎日しゃべりかけちゃってさぁ ぼくって超ウザかったろーなぁー」
 「ほら ぼく 声大きいしさ 話のネタがつきないように本とかよんじゃったりしてもーーーう わーーー」
ベラベラベラベラベラベラ喋り続けるアルマ
ユウ「お前…まさか…昔の記憶を…」
黙って涙を流しながら冷たい目でユウを見るアルマ
ユウ「だから殺したのか? エドガーも…まさか研究所全員…?」
普通の子供の泣き顔になるアルマ「とんだお笑い草だよね」「これじゃまるでAKUMA…」
自身の体にイノセンスを突き刺すアルマ


More Spoiler Script
アルマ「あれ? うしろのおっきいのダレ?」
足元を見ているユウ『赤』
視線を上げると宙に浮いている吐血した男『赤』
更に視線を動かすと、キチキチキチと音を鳴らして男を貫いている
大きな刃がアルマから生えているのを知る
アルマの足元だけで7~8人の惨殺死体
茫然としているユウにアルマ「ユウ 会えて嬉しいんだけど」「ぼくキミを殺さなきゃ」

ドドドドドドドドドドとユウを攻撃するアルマ
ユウ「アルマ?!」
ゴアアと迫ったアルマの一振りが、ごぁきんとユウとマリに当たり二人は殴り飛ばされる
「くっ」っと自分のイノセンスを左手でガシッと掴んだユウの右腕をズバンと切断するアルマ
ユウ「が…っ」
アルマ「へぇ ユウもイノセンスとシンクロしたんだ」
ぎゃああああを悲鳴を上げるユウに更に一撃
殴り飛ばされた衝撃でユウと離ればなれになったマリ「坊や?」
ユウ「なんで…っ」
アルマ「毎日毎日…」「ひとりで仲間が目覚めるのを待ちながらずっと思ってた」
 「なんでみんな目覚めないのかなって」「はっ…」「目覚めるわけないよね」
 「目覚めたいわけないよね~~~~~」
 「あーあ なのに毎日しゃべりかけちゃってさぁ ぼくって超ウザかったろーなぁー」
 「ほら ぼく 声大きいしさ 話のネタがつきないように本とかよんじゃったりしてもーーーう わーーー」
ベラベラベラベラベラベラ喋り続けるアルマ
ユウ「お前…まさか…昔の記憶を…」
黙って涙を流しながら冷たい目でユウを見るアルマ
ユウ「だから殺したのか? エドガーも…まさか研究所全員…?」
普通の子供の泣き顔になるアルマ「とんだお笑い草だよね」「これじゃまるでAKUMA…」
自身の体にイノセンスを突き刺すアルマ

自分につき刺した刃を引き抜くアルマ
ユウ「アルマ!?」
アルマ「…止められなかった」「何回破壊しても」『怒りが』
シュウウウと傷が直ぐ治っていく
 「体が再生してきて……っ」『憎悪が』
 「とめられないよユウっ!!」
叫んだ途端アルマの刃がマリを攻撃するのを見たユウ
『キミのおかげかな』『ひとりだったらどうなってたかわからない……』
砕けたガラスの壁に張り付いた血とマリの足を見ているユウ
そのユウをアルマが自分もろとも刃で貫く
『悪くない』
アルマ「ユウ…」
『お前は何も悪くねぇよアルマ』
アルマ「キミならわかってくれるよね?」「一緒に死のう」
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Yu was in the process of being frozen cryogenically when an Innocence responded to him and synchronized with his flesh.
While he was escaping, he found Marie who was about to be subjected to the Second Exorcist Experiment.
Together, they escaped.
After some thought, Yu decided to take Alma along and escape together.
As he headed towards his previous laboratory, his memories resurfaced and he tried to control his anger.
The researchers were massacred by Alma.
They were like AKUMA and Yu should die along with them. (I believe this to be Alma's thoughts/words)
Alma attacked Yu.
I can't die yet. Yu counterattack.

The battle begins in the next chapter.
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So much moonspeak... Ah well, it's nice to know that Kanda is an actual chosen accommodator(I hope).
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^ Or his brain was.

Either way, now it's pretty clear why he likes Mugen so much - it more or less saved him from being 'turned off' for eternity. Also that freezing process probably made him be more resistant to cold like he was implied to be now.

...And once again there goes the Frankenkanda joke about being frozen in a tube. >_>

Well, this looks promising, I definitely look forward for more spoilers and the chapter itself. That long one might be an April's Fool Day's joke though.
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Personaly I dont wait for this chapter at all.... I mean I hoped that the flsahbacks will end in this chapter (as alma got his innocence in previous month)...but its again streached out.... and so next month will be still flashbacks........... its been half a year with those damn flashbacks....

I would prefer to see in the meantime other peoples situation (lenalee,lavi,link,tevak) than go back to flashbacks.... but its keep going streight line about only him its just boring alraedy (at least for me)

it would be better if it was like 4chapters of pure flashbacks... current 5th chapter showing off other stuff that is happening in the same time as the flahsbacks.... like we see lenalees fight with lulubell..lavis and krorys groups small fights.... than we go to link-tevak closeing up to madarou.... and last pages we go back to flashbacks.... so 6th will be anotehr full flashbacks

yet keeping up for sooo bloody long the same thing over and over again is just Heavy for non-kanda fan like me ^^

so yeah I cant wait for June chapter since may chapter will be again about the kanda fight with alma so flashbacks (which im kidna sick already from it since I already know who will win that fioght from c187 if I remember)
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Personaly I dont wait for this chapter at all.... I mean I hoped that the flsahbacks will end in this chapter (as alma got his innocence in previous month)...but its again streached out.... and so next month will be still flashbacks........... its been half a year with those damn flashbacks....

I would prefer to see in the meantime other peoples situation (lenalee,lavi,link,tevak) than go back to flashbacks.... but its keep going streight line about only him its just boring alraedy (at least for me)

it would be better if it was like 4chapters of pure flashbacks... current 5th chapter showing off other stuff that is happening in the same time as the flahsbacks.... like we see lenalees fight with lulubell..lavis and krorys groups small fights.... than we go to link-tevak closeing up to madarou.... and last pages we go back to flashbacks.... so 6th will be anotehr full flashbacks

yet keeping up for sooo bloody long the same thing over and over again is just Heavy for non-kanda fan like me ^^

so yeah I cant wait for June chapter since may chapter will be again about the kanda fight with alma so flashbacks (which im kidna sick already from it since I already know who will win that fioght from c187 if I remember)
I could not have said it better myself. Honestly the way the other fights with NOAHS were pushed to the background is annoying. I'm half expecting them to be sipping tea behind the scenes as they wait for their turn to pop up again I mean you show ALL of the noahs a few chapters back then you send them on the attack BUT YOU NEVER SHOW THEIR DAMN FIGHTS?! that's just wrong. Noah's aren't Akuma so you can just toss them in and have them play with the exorcists in the background. At least they weren't last time I checked =_=
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I'm actually really enjoying the way the story has been going in the last few chapters. The next one seems like the logical progression of it, from the spoilers we've seen.

I think Kanda needed an in-depth backstory like this, badly, and this is the least that could have been done for it. There are still plenty of things we don't know about him which will have to be resolved later in the story, so the flashbacks won't be meaning 'and so this is the end of the story of Kanda's backstory, we've finished the Kanda part of DGM now, kthxbai'.

But if by the time the 194th Night rolls around we haven't seen what's going on outside Kanda's brain, then it's going to be disappointing. There's such a lot going on that we haven't got to see yet. (Noahs, fights...There's just no way we won't be shown those. Unless Hoshino wants a fan revolt on her hands.)

At this point I'm wondering if Alma was the only test subject to ever go crazy like that. They would probably have cancelled the experiments if any of them had gone on an Innocence-rampage before, but the way they wanted them nice and memory-wiped indicated strongly that they know leaving them with memories is a Very Bad Idea.
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I'm also glad with the way story is progressing. I usually don't like if more than 5 chapters focus only on on place/event/person, I prefer if we have little updates of others too, but this time I wouldn't want it any other way, these memories are so tragic and emotional I don't want to be distracted with others, heck I get mad when there's some irrelevant comic relief moments too.

I suggest those who can't take this current progression lightly just forget about DGM for a while, like it's on another break, when I got bored with an arc of a manga I do this, it's better than always complaining. There are many readers who enjoy that arc.

And don't forget these mangas remain for years, don't expect the mangaka ruin their story and rush things just to satisfy some of their weekly/monthly readers. Maybe some of readers are bored now, saying it's months and I'm fed up with this arc, but wait after a year and more chapters, and when you look back you'll see it was the right way for the events to be unfold.
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Originally Posted by maloos View Post
I'm also glad with the way story is progressing. I usually don't like if more than 5 chapters focus only on on place/event/person, I prefer if we have little updates of others too, but this time I wouldn't want it any other way, these memories are so tragic and emotional I don't want to be distracted with others, heck I get mad when there's some irrelevant comic relief moments too.

I suggest those who can't take this current progression lightly just forget about DGM for a while, like it's on another break, when I got bored with an arc of a manga I do this, it's better than always complaining. There are many readers who enjoy that arc.

And don't forget these mangas remain for years, don't expect the mangaka ruin their story and rush things just to satisfy some of their weekly/monthly readers. Maybe some of readers are bored now, saying it's months and I'm fed up with this arc, but wait after a year and more chapters, and when you look back you'll see it was the right way for the events to be unfold.
well I only read that short spoiler and I already knew that I will wait for June chapter... since may will be the boring alma-kanda fight... we alreayd know that kanda will slash him over and over and over and over again... till he loses the possibility of regeneration....

it would be more interesitng if we were not spoiled already so many times how that story leads to...

I'm totaly not waiting for this chapter... when it appears than it appaers... I will read it once and forget that it ever existed.... simply I dont like focus on 1place for 6months.... previous chapter was better becouse there was Allen-Road interreaction which was funny and cute. (I guess hoshino wanted to get people interested in the series again.... but now again she cuts Allen & Road out of the picture... this is just wrong...)
some complaining ^^ sorry had to throw it out :P to ease my disapointment ^^


I wait for that damn Alma to wake up already (*isnt a strong kick in the nuts enought to wake him up ????*) and so we could go with the stopry further and not stay in the same point for 6months ^^ (showing some other exorcists action that happens in the same time as the flashbacks would kinda show that the time is flowing and not staying in 1point >__<)


well about the where that leads to.... well it leads to the same thing it was before the flashbakc even started.... "allen decission to stay or leave order" but hoshino could resolve this in 1page for example:

Earl: Allen walker we will make it so you leave the order yourself
Allen: no I will remain with order...
Earl: order is evil... they do evil experiments...
Allen: I will stay anyways... I have friends here:
Earl: how can I change your mind... any wish ??
Allen:....hmm... if you pay off all the depts that Cross left for me I will go...
Earl: very well... show me how much do you have to pay....
Earl:..... big eyes...jaw wide open to the floor... all frozen.........
5minutes later....
Earl: you have to stay with the order.... sorry....



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Originally Posted by Zibix View Post
Earl: Allen walker we will make it so you leave the order yourself
Allen: no I will remain with order...
Earl: order is evil... they do evil experiments...
Allen: I will stay anyways... I have friends here:
Earl: how can I change your mind... any wish ??
Allen:....hmm... if you pay off all the depts that Cross left for me I will go...
Earl: very well... show me how much do you have to pay....
Earl:..... big eyes...jaw wide open to the floor... all frozen.........
5minutes later....
Earl: you have to stay with the order.... sorry....
That would be the best resolution ever XD
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since may will be the boring alma-kanda fight... we alreayd know that kanda will slash him over and over and over and over again... till he loses the possibility of regeneration....
I'm fully expecting that fight to be incredibly intense. Alma had already slaughtered 42 lab personnel before Kanda found him, meaning he's probably in the full throes of his rampage. Based on what Hoshino has shown us in the last chapter (sliced Crow bodies mmmmm), I'm expecting a lot of blood and violence from this particular fight, especially since both boys can regenerate. I'm also preparing to shed a few tears.

I was of the mind that Kanda would see Alma slaughering the scientists and be forced to stop him by killing him or some such sugar-coated nonsense. The fact that Alma was driven so completely bonkers as to turn on the one person he was trying to save the entire time... Yeah, this next fight will be anything but boring, if you ask me. This is only my opinion though. Their friendship was built up too much for it to end with a boring "slash slash slash you're dead" battle.
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I see Zibi has come here to agonize since on the MH forums the mods have told him to shut up (no offense, just mentioning).

Obviously a strong kick to the nuts didn't wake Alma up, I'm sure Leverrier tried that to alleviate some frustration.

I suggest you wait till May, when I'm fairly certain this arc will end and the battle we begin.

Timeline works like this:

190 - Intro information & establish friendship & hints of upcoming doom
191 - More intro information & final establishing of friendship & even more hints of upcoming doom
192 - Middle information, explaining the truth & Kanda frozen, Alma nuts
193 - Middle information, Kanda wakes up, Alma goes on a killing spree, begin fight
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195 - Fight ends, perhaps some aftermath, and finally return to the present

See? You just have to wait two months.
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Personally, I'm really looking forward to this chapter. It means character development! *Grabs analyzing glasses* Oho, this'll be fun~~



You don't have to be a fan of Kanda to enjoy this arc. It's not all about Kanda and Alma, but about a deep friendship and what the Order has done to win the war. And while we know how the fight up ahead will turn out, we have no idea what happens in-between. There has to be a lot of emotions and such involved, and it would really straight-down suck if that was ignored just because we know that Kanda cuts Alma over and over until he keels over.

I think you're getting caught up on the fact that you don't like Kanda, while this is hardly only about him. Not to say you're not allowed to not like the arc, but it feels like you're just... whining and not acting mature about it. No offense, but... the only thing it provides is a bad aura to the thread. I appreciate that you put a bit of it under spoiler, though.

I'm just saying you could phrase things better, that's all.

>_>;; *Slinks off*
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I see Zibi has come here to agonize since on the MH forums the mods have told him to shut up (no offense, just mentioning).

See? You just have to wait two months.
well you dont need to tell me becouse I already said it... "waiting for June" chapter

since April is wasted... May will be the "only" Kadna vs Alma (and I hope it will end there once for all)... so back to reality in "June" chapter

I kinda hold to this... since I dont want to see whole June chapter wasted on Kanda crying in flashbacks (above 30pages of him crying xD)

Character development hmm.... fine but why not switch to Lenalee or Lavi char development XD since they are beign left out for a long time ^^ and if allen goes to noah side I dont see their development either

but I have another hope.... that Kandas character development and flashbacks will end up once for all with this arc. so no flashbacks for him (hmm I just noticed that even Timothy had bigger character dev. story than Lavi or Lenalee XD which is kinda sad)

by looking on the spoiler I dont see any glimpse of Allen or Road.... all Yu...Marie... Alma... yu.. marie... alma...alma...yu..... ect so it focuses only on those 3chars (most on 2...)..... rest is killed off... like Edgar was killed by Alma near the end... ....still I wonder when the raws will pop out from this magazine.... since Heji quit provideing with raws....

so many raws of new chapers of few mangas I read did not appear T__T depressed like s* [very depressed XD]...


well the think is that they did not make a agonize thread on MH >__< so no place to cry out the frustration of 1month of waiting hopes getting crushed (hoped that the flashbacks would end... or like previous chapter contain more Allen-Road scens).... they dont go with the "free to speach & own opinion" rules.... so be it... wont post it there till next may spoiler (maybe few panels with allen-road might show up... since at least they have funny interreaction and not gloomy like shit kanda ^^)

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I doubt that Kanda's character development will end "once and for all" after this arc. Like others have said, there is still so much to him that simply can't be explained away in a couple of chapters. Personally, I think that we're only starting to scrape the surface. Ugh, please don't be offended. I just dislike it when people say that this month is a wasted chapter simply because their favorite characters aren't in it...

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Old 04-01-2010, 06:45 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Well I think this arc is totally best one in a while. I've waited for it since I started reading this manga...er, not maybe for it, but for something like this. It's great.

Also as far as the "reality" is concerned, I'd say only a few moments have passed in there. Since after a few chapters of mindreading we see someone pointing out that Alma is starting to wake up, and to me it doesn't look like a lot of time has passed before the beginning and that exclamation - sure, it might be me, but I'd say nobody's missing on anything.

And I really don't think any fight in such a context could be classified as "boring". Like Lottie said, it's ought to be a nice and scarring sight, and I look forward to it, because it's development to both characters and the story, and hopefully we'll get to know more, even if there still will be questions unanswered.

Also Kanda does need the screentime he's hogging, not to mention that, as it was already said, it's a lot more than a Kanda story, it tells about the whole Order, and has other people in it as well. It is important for the whole story. (And - I'd say there should be a total Kanda arc some time in the future again (which will hopefully show that epic meeting with Lenalee and Lavi. Too depressing at the moment)). I wouldn't mind if this went on for like 10 chapters at least.

..And now, with this, I rest my case. :

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i rellly like this arc, kanda's story i really sad and what happene to alma is shocking. do u think that onece this gets back to the real world, allen will completly rethink how kanda is? I hope so, kanda isn't that bad
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D. Kanda -man? I like it

I am freakin excited about this chapter. Especially since I put it into a translator and came out with a line saying dododododoodo . Its probably a sound effect or something but its still funny.

Like most people have said, these flashbacks arent just about Kanda but the Order as a whole and everthing they've done.Even if it was just about Kanda, it still be fair considering the fact he didnt show up too much in alot of other arcs.

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We all know that's what it SHOULD be called. /shot

And I agree. He had disappeared from the manga completely for a rather long while a few times, he deserves some spotlight too considering he's supposed to be the second main character though to me honestly it doesn't seem so.

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i rellly like this arc, kanda's story i really sad and what happene to alma is shocking. do u think that onece this gets back to the real world, allen will completly rethink how kanda is? I hope so, kanda isn't that bad
I agree, he really is not. But I hope that doesn't happen, I don't really like characters rapidly changing. >_> Since we've already seen Kanda is a jackass by nature (of course, all the shit added to it but still his personality wasn't much different from the beginning), I wouldn't want anyone to suddenly completely change their opinion on him. As for Allen.. he might sympathize/pity a bit, since he's that kind of a person, but that won't make their clashing views on things change. So even if the general view on a person changes a little, it's not like they'd start agreeing on stuff or justifying actions they think are stupid according to their own principles after all this mindrape is over. If anything, Allen's view on the Order itself might change - and here again, he already saw the Thirds, so it might not be too big of a shock except that he sees people he actually knows for a while. Of course, we'll see what happens sooner or later.
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